Saturday, July 31, 2010

Sinoj 31July 2010

Sinoj (7/31/2010 8:10:01 AM): hello Sir
dhanvarshagrp (7/31/2010 8:10:16 AM): how was the day
Sinoj (7/31/2010 8:10:37 AM): okay Sir
dhanvarshagrp (7/31/2010 8:11:10 AM): see u r holding 1 pe short at 69.90 na
Sinoj (7/31/2010 8:11:16 AM): yes sir
Sinoj (7/31/2010 8:11:17 AM): that is right
Sinoj (7/31/2010 8:11:31 AM): i wanted to ask you a question regarding that
dhanvarshagrp (7/31/2010 8:14:14 AM): see in options if u r gaining 8 points at any time and u r obsering that rg trade atarted maro exit .....
Sinoj (7/31/2010 8:15:44 AM): now ltp is 73.50
dhanvarshagrp (7/31/2010 8:16:11 AM): see made a low of 58.55
dhanvarshagrp (7/31/2010 8:16:43 AM): easy 10 points were available
Sinoj (7/31/2010 8:16:49 AM): ok

Sinoj (7/31/2010 8:16:55 AM): so when nifty price goes down
Sinoj (7/31/2010 8:16:59 AM): the ltp will decrease
dhanvarshagrp (7/31/2010 8:17:11 AM): it will increase
dhanvarshagrp (7/31/2010 8:17:26 AM): put price will increase
Sinoj (7/31/2010 8:17:48 AM): ok..got it
dhanvarshagrp (7/31/2010 8:18:07 AM): read here http://dgrpchat.blogspot.com/
dhanvarshagrp (7/31/2010 8:20:32 AM): have u noticed our yesterdays crucial level was 5371 and nifty futures last traded price was 5371.00
Sinoj (7/31/2010 8:20:55 AM): yes
Sinoj (7/31/2010 8:22:18 AM): Sir we brought nifty 5300 strike price right
dhanvarshagrp (7/31/2010 8:22:42 AM): no we sold it
Sinoj (7/31/2010 8:22:51 AM): yes
dhanvarshagrp (7/31/2010 8:22:59 AM): we are option writer
Sinoj (7/31/2010 8:23:23 AM): we sold it and when it reaches strike price we get profit
dhanvarshagrp (7/31/2010 8:24:16 AM): no if it will move towards strike price buyer get benefited
dhanvarshagrp (7/31/2010 8:24:53 AM): it must not reach towards strike price
dhanvarshagrp (7/31/2010 8:25:21 AM): if it will move towards 5400 5500 u will earn
Sinoj (7/31/2010 8:25:38 AM): ok got it ..so this is how put sell works
dhanvarshagrp (7/31/2010 8:25:55 AM): and reverse for call
Sinoj (7/31/2010 8:25:57 AM): so when the premium goes low ..we beniefit
dhanvarshagrp (7/31/2010 8:26:09 AM): obviously
Sinoj (7/31/2010 8:26:21 AM): so lets say we got teh premium as 50
dhanvarshagrp (7/31/2010 8:26:47 AM): how u can say ??
Sinoj (7/31/2010 8:26:59 AM): so is the profit 69.9 -50 muliplied by 50
dhanvarshagrp (7/31/2010 8:27:26 AM): i m not getting u ?
Sinoj (7/31/2010 8:27:34 AM): i am trying to calculate the profit
Sinoj (7/31/2010 8:27:46 AM): i dont know how profit is caluclated in options
dhanvarshagrp (7/31/2010 8:28:07 AM): see we sold at 69.90
dhanvarshagrp (7/31/2010 8:28:11 AM): ok
Sinoj (7/31/2010 8:28:13 AM): right
Sinoj (7/31/2010 8:28:33 AM): just to get a feel for comparison of futures and options
dhanvarshagrp (7/31/2010 8:28:47 AM): if till expiry mkt will stay above 5300
Sinoj (7/31/2010 8:29:09 AM): then i lose the premium
Sinoj (7/31/2010 8:29:26 AM): 69.9 multiplied by 50
dhanvarshagrp (7/31/2010 8:29:31 AM): you wont loose buyer will loose
dhanvarshagrp (7/31/2010 8:29:48 AM): you are seller
Sinoj (7/31/2010 8:29:53 AM): ok now i got it
dhanvarshagrp (7/31/2010 8:30:25 AM): you have sold a right to sell nifty at 5300
dhanvarshagrp (7/31/2010 8:31:20 AM): so any time buyer will take ur nifty @5300
dhanvarshagrp (7/31/2010 8:31:48 AM): correction
dhanvarshagrp (7/31/2010 8:32:12 AM): u will have to buy nifty @ 5300
Sinoj (7/31/2010 8:33:34 AM): so if buyer buys it at 5300 then we lose our premiumn
dhanvarshagrp (7/31/2010 8:33:55 AM): so if nifty is above 5300 no one will give u his nifty
Sinoj (7/31/2010 8:34:12 AM): ok
Sinoj (7/31/2010 8:34:26 AM): now lets say nifty is above 5300
Sinoj (7/31/2010 8:34:39 AM): and ltp is 72
Sinoj (7/31/2010 8:34:43 AM): in that case what happens
dhanvarshagrp (7/31/2010 8:35:05 AM): so premium price will be 0.05 paisa at expiry
Sinoj (7/31/2010 8:35:41 AM): how did we arrive at 0.05
dhanvarshagrp (7/31/2010 8:36:14 AM): see yesterday i told u all that it was at 66 at 5400
dhanvarshagrp (7/31/2010 8:36:43 AM): in any future date
dhanvarshagrp (7/31/2010 8:36:57 AM): if nifty will trade at 5400
dhanvarshagrp (7/31/2010 8:37:16 AM): pe 5300 will never toch 66
dhanvarshagrp (7/31/2010 8:38:17 AM): coz time decay interest rest and many more factors reducing option prces
Sinoj (7/31/2010 8:39:03 AM): so 0.05 is basically the brokerage
Sinoj (7/31/2010 8:39:05 AM): for the trade
dhanvarshagrp (7/31/2010 8:39:55 AM): no
dhanvarshagrp (7/31/2010 8:40:15 AM): it is min price which can be traded
Sinoj (7/31/2010 8:40:22 AM): oh ok
dhanvarshagrp (7/31/2010 8:40:26 AM): read this
dhanvarshagrp (7/31/2010 8:40:28 AM): http://dhanvarshagrp.blogspot.com/2010/06/optionsyou-must-know-about-time-decay.html
Sinoj (7/31/2010 8:51:54 AM): ok sir read the article
Sinoj (7/31/2010 8:52:00 AM): so in our case
Sinoj (7/31/2010 8:52:53 AM): if the price of nifty goes up and does not come below 5300 we have nothing to lose
dhanvarshagrp (7/31/2010 8:53:05 AM): yes
dhanvarshagrp (7/31/2010 8:53:40 AM): and 3.5 k is solid gain
Sinoj (7/31/2010 8:54:50 AM): so in options are we allowed to square off or we have to hold till end of of contract period
dhanvarshagrp (7/31/2010 8:55:58 AM): see at any time u can exit at suitable rate like other trades
Sinoj (7/31/2010 8:56:12 AM): ok
dhanvarshagrp (7/31/2010 8:56:27 AM): coz u dont know who is buyer
Sinoj (7/31/2010 8:56:38 AM): ok
dhanvarshagrp (7/31/2010 8:56:56 AM): just u can change the seat
Sinoj (7/31/2010 8:56:57 AM): so if nity goes 5400+ and premium goes down
Sinoj (7/31/2010 8:57:03 AM): to say
Sinoj (7/31/2010 8:57:09 AM): 50
dhanvarshagrp (7/31/2010 8:57:30 AM): you will be at 2k gain
Sinoj (7/31/2010 8:57:34 AM): we can exercise our option s
dhanvarshagrp (7/31/2010 9:01:45 AM): you have no right you sold right to exercise option to the buyer and keeping 69.90 with u that is called premium
Sinoj (7/31/2010 9:04:44 AM): so how 2k sir
Sinoj (7/31/2010 9:04:56 AM): if premium goes to 50
Sinoj (7/31/2010 9:05:23 AM): from 69.9
dhanvarshagrp (7/31/2010 9:08:12 AM): 20x50 = 1k
Sinoj (7/31/2010 9:08:21 AM): ok
Sinoj (7/31/2010 9:08:27 AM): now got it
dhanvarshagrp (7/31/2010 9:08:43 AM): my error
Sinoj (7/31/2010 9:09:09 AM): No sir ..
Sinoj (7/31/2010 9:09:19 AM): i was just trying to figure out calculations
Sinoj (7/31/2010 9:09:33 AM): so the risk in
Sinoj (7/31/2010 9:09:39 AM): options is less
Sinoj (7/31/2010 9:09:42 AM): compared to futures
Sinoj (7/31/2010 9:10:03 AM): because there is potential of earning huge sum
Sinoj (7/31/2010 9:10:22 AM): if we can predict before a month
Sinoj (7/31/2010 9:10:45 AM): and you only lose your premium
Sinoj (7/31/2010 9:10:50 AM): if it hits strike price
Sinoj (7/31/2010 9:16:18 AM): Sir i am going to go out ..friends are waiting ....i will chat with you later on today your afternoon or evening time
dhanvarshagrp (7/31/2010 9:16:45 AM): cua
Sinoj (7/31/2010 9:17:07 AM): Thank You for taking the time to explain
Sinoj (7/31/2010 9:17:18 AM): your article was very helpfull
Sinoj (7/31/2010 9:17:29 AM): and doing a trade helps me understand options better
dhanvarshagrp (7/31/2010 9:17:46 AM): k

Friday, July 30, 2010

Sinoj

Sinoj (7/30/2010 6:23:57 AM): Good Morning Sir
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 6:24:04 AM): hi
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 6:24:16 AM): how was the day
Sinoj (7/30/2010 6:24:36 AM): it was good sir ..passed away soon
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 6:24:54 AM): ok holding no change na
Sinoj (7/30/2010 6:25:11 AM): no change?
Sinoj (7/30/2010 6:25:23 AM): holdings of stocks
Sinoj (7/30/2010 6:25:24 AM): you mean
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 6:26:15 AM): please update ur positions
Sinoj (7/30/2010 6:26:30 AM): holding nifty one lot at 5400
Sinoj (7/30/2010 6:26:40 AM): and one lot of hdfc at 2100
Sinoj (7/30/2010 6:26:51 AM): hdfc bank Sir
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 6:27:26 AM): please update like this nifty short 5400 1 hdfc short 2100 1
Sinoj (7/30/2010 6:27:40 AM): oh okay
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 6:28:00 AM): every position is having 2 meanings
Sinoj (7/30/2010 6:28:17 AM): ok
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 6:29:06 AM): and now i m planning for optionselling for both holdings
Sinoj (7/30/2010 6:30:05 AM): what is optionselling in futures Sir
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 6:30:32 AM): listen yu are short in hdfc at 2100
Sinoj (7/30/2010 6:30:40 AM): yes

dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 6:31:25 AM): so we will sell pa2050 at 25
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 6:32:01 AM): so so u will receive 25 point premium
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 6:32:35 AM): ig hdfc will reach below 2050
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 6:33:17 AM): its value may increase
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 6:33:45 AM): else will fall rapidly due to time decay
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 6:34:21 AM): same in nifty
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 6:34:56 AM): will plan nd sell pe5300 at opening bell was closed at 55
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 6:35:18 AM): so 55 point is good gain na
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 6:35:58 AM): and additional 100 point in nifty and 50 point in hdfc
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 6:37:13 AM): read the plan and ask ur query
Sinoj (7/30/2010 6:37:50 AM): ok
Sinoj (7/30/2010 6:41:06 AM): i did not completley get it
Sinoj (7/30/2010 6:41:25 AM): let me as u few questions
Sinoj (7/30/2010 6:41:32 AM): what is pa?
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 6:42:49 AM): pa put option
Sinoj (7/30/2010 6:42:58 AM): oh ok
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 6:43:22 AM): right to short for buyer at 2050
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 6:43:53 AM): so he can short ur hdfc at 2050
Sinoj (7/30/2010 6:46:04 AM): when will the settlement day of put option be
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 6:46:14 AM): and will exercise his right only below 2050 na
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 6:46:38 AM): last thursday means 26 aug
Sinoj (7/30/2010 6:46:43 AM): i have not done put options b4
Sinoj (7/30/2010 6:46:44 AM): ok
Sinoj (7/30/2010 6:46:56 AM): i will try and figure it out
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 6:47:21 AM): why to worry i have planned na
Sinoj (7/30/2010 6:47:35 AM): ok sir
Sinoj (7/30/2010 6:47:45 AM): let me do it and i shall ask
Sinoj (7/30/2010 6:47:54 AM): u questions
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 6:48:05 AM): you just sell them highest possible price
Sinoj (7/30/2010 6:48:16 AM): ok
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 6:48:38 AM): coz the premium will be ours
Sinoj (7/30/2010 6:49:08 AM): ok
Sinoj (7/30/2010 6:50:22 AM): 10 min sir ..going to hv dinner...will be right back
Sinoj (7/30/2010 7:01:56 AM): Sir i am bck
Sinoj (7/30/2010 7:02:07 AM): so we have to place options sell order
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 7:02:16 AM): ok read on c nexus
Sinoj (7/30/2010 7:02:24 AM): for hdfcbank
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 7:02:42 AM): yes place at 40
Sinoj (7/30/2010 7:03:31 AM): for OPT-HDFBAN-26-Aug-2010-2050-PA
Sinoj (7/30/2010 7:03:42 AM): we place sell at limit 40
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 7:03:54 AM): y
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 7:04:06 AM): 39.90
Sinoj (7/30/2010 7:04:15 AM): ok
Sinoj (7/30/2010 7:06:51 AM): Sir this is the first time i am trading in options...i am sorry if i am asking stupid questions
Sinoj (7/30/2010 7:07:04 AM): if the strike price is 2050 means if it hits it
Sinoj (7/30/2010 7:07:15 AM): then we get the premium what we have invested
Sinoj (7/30/2010 7:07:52 AM): the ltp is 25.05
Sinoj (7/30/2010 7:09:23 AM): placed sir
Sinoj (7/30/2010 7:09:35 AM): Account : IN302679-36422073-8501469250 Action : SELL Exchange : NSE Contract Details : OPT-HDFBAN-26-Aug-2010-2050-PA Quantity : 125 Order Type : Limit Limit Price : 39.90 Order Date : 30-Jul-2010 Your Reference No. : 201007301100000744
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 7:09:42 AM): see trade execution
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 7:09:59 AM): means u agreed to get premium
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 7:10:32 AM): and ready to hand over selling right at 2050
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 7:10:58 AM): means
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 7:11:29 AM): u r having 50 points gain in ur hand 2100 >>>2050
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 7:12:02 AM): and + gain of premium say 40 point
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 7:12:25 AM): so ur total gain will be 90 points
Sinoj (7/30/2010 7:14:52 AM): ok
Sinoj (7/30/2010 7:18:05 AM): got it
Sinoj (7/30/2010 7:18:13 AM): do we need to place nifty also
Sinoj (7/30/2010 7:18:27 AM): before opening bell
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 7:18:47 AM): yes no harm place at 70
Sinoj (7/30/2010 7:22:34 AM): done Sir
Sinoj (7/30/2010 7:22:37 AM): Action : SELL Exchange : NSE Contract Details : OPT-NIFTY-26-Aug-2010-5300-PE Quantity : 50 Order Type : Limit Limit Price : 70.00 Order Date : 30-Jul-2010 Your Reference No. : 201007301100000832
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 7:23:28 AM): please learn good things i disappointed seeing that u are violating
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 7:23:49 AM): modify 10 paisa down
Sinoj (7/30/2010 7:24:19 AM): oh ok..doing it now Sir
Sinoj (7/30/2010 7:26:07 AM): Sorry sir i am violating ...i will keep 10 paisa up and down
Sinoj (7/30/2010 7:28:34 AM): done modifying
Sinoj (7/30/2010 7:28:45 AM): to 69.90
Sinoj (7/30/2010 7:29:11 AM): Once again ..Sorry Sir
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 7:31:47 AM): np do care
Sinoj (7/30/2010 7:32:01 AM): sure Sir..i will
Sinoj (7/30/2010 9:06:38 AM): hi busy in setting up scrips for this month
Sinoj (7/30/2010 9:14:34 AM): see book 10 points in hdfc
Sinoj (7/30/2010 9:14:46 AM): OK
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 9:15:21 AM): cancel option sell order
Sinoj (7/30/2010 9:15:38 AM): for hdfc
Sinoj (7/30/2010 9:16:17 AM): hdfc option order cancelled
Sinoj (7/30/2010 9:16:48 AM): and booked 10points in hdfc futures
Sinoj (7/30/2010 9:17:45 AM): Nify option order executed sir

Sinoj (7/30/2010 8:14:32 PM): Good Evening Sir
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 8:14:40 PM): hi
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 8:15:04 PM): u are gaining 25 nifty points
Sinoj (7/30/2010 8:15:35 PM): yes Sir
Sinoj (7/30/2010 8:16:04 PM): infact i placed buy order for 30 points and it went through
Sinoj (7/30/2010 8:16:13 PM): INR 1500 profit
Sinoj (7/30/2010 8:20:16 PM): but HDFC Sir it went up yeterday
Sinoj (7/30/2010 8:20:25 PM): i mean today
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 8:20:50 PM): ok u r intrade ?
Sinoj (7/30/2010 8:21:18 PM): yes in hdfc and ioc short
Sinoj (7/30/2010 8:21:32 PM): also i am working from home today
Sinoj (7/30/2010 8:21:34 PM): so we can chat
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 8:21:37 PM): hdfc at and ioc at ?
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 8:22:00 PM): join in conf na
Sinoj (7/30/2010 8:22:45 PM): hdfc 2100
Sinoj (7/30/2010 8:22:54 PM): ioc 360

30 July 2010

Aejaz (7/30/2010 6:48:38 AM): hi sir gm
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 6:48:54 AM): khush aamdeed
Aejaz (7/30/2010 6:49:16 AM): how r u?
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 6:49:24 AM): ff
Aejaz (7/30/2010 6:50:06 AM): kya hogaya suba suba?
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 6:50:24 AM): fit n fine
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 6:50:49 AM): i m having gr8 plan for our holdings
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 6:51:38 AM): but we will have to stay in trade for entire month
Aejaz (7/30/2010 6:52:05 AM): kal lnt ko kya hogaya seedha 1800 se 30 rs oopar in half an hour? Did u analyse sir?
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 6:52:41 AM): i saw but it fired due to role over
Aejaz (7/30/2010 6:53:32 AM): matlab positive sign hai kya yeh?
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 6:54:23 AM): some times it had seen
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 6:54:34 AM): means
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 6:54:49 AM): 10 % cases are there
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 6:55:08 AM): i saw at . middle position
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 6:55:20 AM): price bounced back
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 6:56:19 AM): i m having 50 k premium eating plan
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 6:56:34 AM): ++++bada paan
Aejaz (7/30/2010 6:59:36 AM): ok
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 6:59:57 AM): boot ur lappy
Aejaz (7/30/2010 7:11:30 AM): wait pl
Aejaz (7/30/2010 7:12:38 AM): hi
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 7:12:48 AM): ok
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 7:13:06 AM): please tell me r u having team viewer 5 ??
Aejaz (7/30/2010 7:13:16 AM): what is that
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 7:13:29 AM): is this ur office pc??
Aejaz (7/30/2010 7:13:36 AM): yes
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 7:13:39 AM): lappy
Aejaz (7/30/2010 7:13:45 AM): hmm
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 7:14:12 AM): tv is a desk top sharing software
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 7:14:21 AM): available at fre
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 7:14:28 AM): please dl now
Aejaz (7/30/2010 7:14:32 AM): isse hota kya hai?
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 7:14:59 AM): issse main aapko mera screen ke charts dikha doonga
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 7:15:31 AM): i h day to instruct studentsm using eac
Aejaz (7/30/2010 7:15:57 AM): k link do download ki
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 7:16:02 AM): i m using each day to instruct students
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 7:16:29 AM): http://download.cnet.com/TeamViewer/3000-7240_4-10398150.html?part=dl-6271747&subj=dl&tag=button please JoinCNET and later click at Download N
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 7:17:31 AM): now 2.6 MB
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 7:18:14 AM): now 2.78 mb
Aejaz (7/30/2010 7:19:31 AM): 147008466 id / 3458 pw
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 7:19:59 AM): no
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 7:20:18 AM): this will give me ur monitor
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 7:20:33 AM): 780 651 025
Aejaz (7/30/2010 7:20:38 AM): ok ive downloaded
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 7:20:41 AM): u take mine
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 7:21:09 AM): pw 9577
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 7:21:45 AM): feed id
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 7:21:59 AM): click connect to partner
Aejaz (7/30/2010 7:22:02 AM): but kya option sel karu..remote support/presentation/file trf / vpn ?
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 7:22:09 AM): then enter pw
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 7:22:24 AM): rem support
Aejaz (7/30/2010 7:23:52 AM): i can c some screen
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 7:24:08 AM): ya it is mine
Aejaz (7/30/2010 7:24:36 AM): maza aa raha hai
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 7:24:44 AM): see lhart t c
Aejaz (7/30/2010 7:24:55 AM): hmm
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 7:24:56 AM): lt chart
Aejaz (7/30/2010 7:25:22 AM): hmm
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 7:25:57 AM): r u seeing rsi
Aejaz (7/30/2010 7:26:06 AM): yes
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 7:26:11 AM): dot at middle
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 7:26:25 AM): money flow
Aejaz (7/30/2010 7:26:38 AM): hmm
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 7:26:39 AM): at centre line
Aejaz (7/30/2010 7:26:42 AM): mfi
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 7:26:58 AM): money flow index
Aejaz (7/30/2010 7:27:16 AM): hmm
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 7:27:35 AM): w % r at thresh hold
Aejaz (7/30/2010 7:28:00 AM): ye
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 7:28:31 AM): gmma blue line spporting green
Aejaz (7/30/2010 7:29:07 AM): yes
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 7:29:18 AM): last candle
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 7:29:34 AM): lower tail is long
Aejaz (7/30/2010 7:29:45 AM): hmm
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 7:30:43 AM): so 10 percent cases i have seen bounced from this loc
Aejaz (7/30/2010 7:30:52 AM): ok
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 7:32:51 AM): is it closed
Aejaz (7/30/2010 7:33:04 AM): what
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 7:33:09 AM): tv
Aejaz (7/30/2010 7:33:14 AM): no
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 7:33:36 AM): r u seeing my monitor
Aejaz (7/30/2010 7:33:44 AM): it si showing this window
Aejaz (7/30/2010 7:33:58 AM): u can see this na?
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 7:34:04 AM): r u seein chart
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 7:34:32 AM): see i can not see u r seeing mine
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 7:34:56 AM): coz control in ur hand
Aejaz (7/30/2010 7:34:56 AM): no i cant c urs too now
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 7:35:34 AM): ok so clik connect again i mgiving u pw
Aejaz (7/30/2010 7:35:50 AM): ok
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 7:35:54 AM): 7734
Aejaz (7/30/2010 7:36:05 AM): id?
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 7:36:09 AM): same
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 7:36:41 AM): done
Aejaz (7/30/2010 7:36:46 AM): hmm c now
Aejaz (7/30/2010 7:37:27 AM): u cant control my screen? n y pw has changed?
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 7:37:57 AM): see session was expired
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 7:38:11 AM): itss fo onr ew session new pw
Aejaz (7/30/2010 7:38:36 AM): matlab its only for limited time?
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 7:38:46 AM): new session new pw
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 7:38:52 AM): not limited
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 7:39:16 AM): we can use till the end of.....
Aejaz (7/30/2010 7:40:03 AM): ok
Aejaz (7/30/2010 7:40:26 AM): sir hpcl n nifty hold karna hai na
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 7:40:49 AM): plan is here
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 7:41:18 AM): so we will sell pa2050 at 25 .. so u will receive 25 point premium…if hdfc will reach below 2050… its value may increase .. else will fall r
Aejaz (7/30/2010 7:41:28 AM): sorry hdfc not hpcl
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 7:42:41 AM): are u able to read, it
Aejaz (7/30/2010 7:42:53 AM): matlab both side short na?
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 7:43:16 AM): wait samjhana mushkil
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 7:45:24 AM): r u reading it
Aejaz (7/30/2010 7:45:39 AM): ye
Aejaz (7/30/2010 7:46:19 AM): i m not hving idea on puts that much...how they function
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 7:46:28 AM): so control wid ur mouse and read the plan
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 7:47:03 AM): see every thing explained to sinoj just 20 mins back
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 7:47:20 AM): read full u will get it
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 7:47:38 AM): can u drag the chat
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 7:47:50 AM): please chk
Aejaz (7/30/2010 7:48:03 AM): ok wait...just tell me with examle what happens by selling put and buying put with some imaginary levels
Aejaz (7/30/2010 7:49:29 AM): wait let me ready fully...give 2 mins...then i will ask u...but pl. expalin me the basic which i asked u last msg.
Aejaz (7/30/2010 7:51:45 AM): i dont get it...pl. explain what is our tgt. if we buy or sell put of 2050 hdfc...then i will understand fast
Aejaz (7/30/2010 7:53:19 AM): U UNDERSTOOD MY QUERY?
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 7:55:45 AM): i m not geting ur query
Aejaz (7/30/2010 7:57:14 AM): LIKE 1000 KA CALL WE TAKE AT 10 RS. MEANS WE FEEL SPOT WILL REACH AT 1010...N IF WE WELL MEANS WE THINK IT WILL GO BELOW 1010...LIKE THIS U TELL ME FOR PUT OPTION
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 7:59:12 AM): see we are selling shorting right to option buyer at what ever premeum we will get ltp was 25 ...ok
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 7:59:29 AM): inn case of hdfc
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 7:59:59 AM): means he will short our hdfc at 2050
Aejaz (7/30/2010 8:00:10 AM): no sir tell me what is our estimation if we sell or buy put of 2050 at 25 premium...
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 8:00:40 AM): i m not getting u
Aejaz (7/30/2010 8:00:44 AM): what is the bet? hope u get me?
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 8:00:50 AM): no
Aejaz (7/30/2010 8:01:19 AM): theek hai abhi apna live example lekar batao
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 8:01:20 AM): may i call u chotu utha
Aejaz (7/30/2010 8:01:39 AM): no dont call both are sleeping
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 8:01:47 AM): ok
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 8:01:52 AM): suno
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 8:02:09 AM): ham hdfc short hain na
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 8:02:17 AM): 2100 men
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 8:02:26 AM): 1000
Aejaz (7/30/2010 8:02:38 AM): just tell me with our live example ...v shorted 1000 nos at 2100 suppose...in futures...so what will happen with relation to our additional position with pe selling at 2050 with 25 premium
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 8:03:09 AM): wo hi to bata raha hoon
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 8:03:30 AM): aap mera screen dekh rahe hain na
Aejaz (7/30/2010 8:04:14 AM): samjo ki spot 2150 gaya tab kya hoga aur 2050 hua to kya hoga aur 2000 hua to kya hoga fut and put ka
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 8:04:22 AM): ham apna hdfc ko 2050 men sell kar rahe hain
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 8:05:04 AM): agar upar gaya pa kam hota jaega
Aejaz (7/30/2010 8:05:29 AM): but wo teeno cases batado na clear hojayega
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 8:05:39 AM): ham hdfc short se exit kardenge
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 8:06:15 AM): agar yahi raha 25 h will become 000000 on expiry
Aejaz (7/30/2010 8:07:22 AM): not clear...sir aap wo ooper ke query ke teeno cases mein bata do na fatafat clear ho jayega mujhe
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 8:07:45 AM): agar neeche gaya to bhi time decay will eat something for us say 1 point perday in pa2050
Aejaz (7/30/2010 8:08:09 AM): spot 2150/2050/2000
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 8:08:11 AM): and gain of 50 points in hdfc
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 8:08:34 AM): saara to bata dia ji
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 8:09:02 AM): 2050 se neeche
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 8:09:42 AM): ham dekhenge ki hanen kya karne men faida hai
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 8:10:19 AM): position sq off karna hai ya dono se out hona hai
Aejaz (7/30/2010 8:10:27 AM): kuchh clear nahin hai abhi tak
Aejaz (7/30/2010 8:10:44 AM): anyways i will sell pa 2050 at 25 premium
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 8:10:48 AM): see ab main nahi kar paaunga
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 8:10:54 AM): trade chod den
Aejaz (7/30/2010 8:11:37 AM): but ek hi bata deejiye pls. by selling put at 2050 are we short on both fronts ...fut and put...or we are short in fut and long in put?
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 8:12:16 AM): please call me
Aejaz (7/30/2010 8:12:22 AM): aur simple query agar put premium 25 se 50 ho gaya matlab spot kitna hoga roughly...
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 8:12:32 AM): i m not getting u n
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 8:12:44 AM): u are not getting me
Aejaz (7/30/2010 8:12:57 AM): aur simple query agar put premium 25 se 50 ho gaya matlab spot kitna hoga roughly...
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 8:13:10 AM): it is same trade in short as was long in dlf
Aejaz (7/30/2010 8:13:23 AM): agar 2050 ka premium 25 se badhkar 50 hogaya matlab spot kitna rahega tab?
Aejaz (7/30/2010 8:13:35 AM): 2050 ka put premium i mean
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 8:13:57 AM): chod dsirf double gain haio aapka nuksaaan nahi
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 8:14:33 AM): put ka price tabhi badega jab spot neeche jaega
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 8:15:19 AM): aur agar pa men 10 paisa badega to spot and fiture men 1 rs kam hoga
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 8:15:33 AM): so think on it
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 8:15:52 AM): and decay is urs ...sellers ..
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 8:16:15 AM): kal bhi dekha na
Aejaz (7/30/2010 8:16:20 AM): ok itna simple pahile bol sakte the na........mai bar baar pooch raha tha simplified way mein
Aejaz (7/30/2010 8:16:35 AM): ok done now tell me the premarket levels
Aejaz (7/30/2010 8:16:39 AM): for ordering
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 8:16:40 AM): 30 k ka 7 k hua na
Aejaz (7/30/2010 8:16:45 AM): hmm
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 8:17:30 AM): nifty pe5300
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 8:17:37 AM): closed 55
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 8:17:46 AM): looking nifty weak
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 8:17:59 AM): so pe must be high
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 8:18:10 AM): will place at 69.90
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 8:18:20 AM): boklo??
Aejaz (7/30/2010 8:18:49 AM): ok
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 8:19:00 AM): can u see na
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 8:19:13 AM): 57.30
Aejaz (7/30/2010 8:19:21 AM): so will place 1000 hdfc put sell 2050 at 25 premium and pe 530 at 69.9 premium
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 8:20:25 AM): no hd fc start 125 fro 43.90
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 8:20:42 AM): 35.90
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 8:20:54 AM): coz vol is less
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 8:21:27 AM): only 18 contract traded last day
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 8:21:53 AM): so 1 lot 35.85
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 8:21:59 AM): getting me na
Aejaz (7/30/2010 8:25:07 AM): 1 loy 35.85, 2nd - 38, 3rd - 40, 4th 43.9
Aejaz (7/30/2010 8:25:09 AM): ok
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 8:25:41 AM): but ye to 500 hua
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 8:25:58 AM): we are holding 1 k na
Aejaz (7/30/2010 8:26:34 AM): hmm..tab do do karna padega na? right?
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 8:27:01 AM): nahi ek hi ek dalo different prices men
Aejaz (7/30/2010 8:27:19 AM): starting from and ending at?
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 8:27:27 AM): jiadah hone se buers bhag jate hain
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 8:27:34 AM):
Aejaz (7/30/2010 8:27:40 AM): hmm
Aejaz (7/30/2010 8:27:59 AM): k tell me start n end
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 8:28:05 AM): aur aag men laga doonga
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 8:28:28 AM): bich men kahi bhi dalo
Aejaz (7/30/2010 8:28:48 AM): ok fm. 35.9 to 45.9 na?
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 8:28:56 AM): np
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 8:29:12 AM): free ka maal hai
Aejaz (7/30/2010 8:29:21 AM): ok
Aejaz (7/30/2010 8:29:39 AM): ok wait im ordering
Aejaz (7/30/2010 8:30:02 AM): abhi premarket nifty/hdfc cover dalna hai kya?
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 8:30:05 AM): see now i have to update blog na
Aejaz (7/30/2010 8:30:11 AM): aur lnt ka bhi batado pl.
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 8:30:52 AM): same 1879.80 se 1867
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 8:31:04 AM): in steps of 100
Aejaz (7/30/2010 8:31:13 AM): 1867 se 1879.8 na
Aejaz (7/30/2010 8:31:33 AM): ya 1879.8 se 1897?
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 8:31:35 AM): kahi bhi bas 10 paisa kAM YAAD RAKHNA
Aejaz (7/30/2010 8:31:49 AM): ok
Aejaz (7/30/2010 8:32:14 AM): but 1867 to 1879 na?
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 8:32:40 AM): SHORTING FOR DEL NA
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 8:33:02 AM): TOTAL 400
Aejaz (7/30/2010 8:33:32 AM): yes
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 8:33:45 AM): PLEASE CARRY ON
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 8:33:53 AM): BUT NOTE
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 8:34:19 AM): THIS PLAN IS 30 DAYS PLAN
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 8:34:53 AM): SO PLEASE DO NOT EXIT FROM ANY POSITION IN ANY CASE
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 8:35:07 AM): WITHOUT ASKING ME
Aejaz (7/30/2010 8:35:13 AM): OK
Aejaz (7/30/2010 8:35:29 AM): but abhi premarket cover dalna hai kya hdfc ka?
Aejaz (7/30/2010 8:35:41 AM): and nifty ka
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 8:35:51 AM): MARWAOGE KYA
Aejaz (7/30/2010 8:36:06 AM): ok cool
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 8:36:20 AM): DONO NAHI JI
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 8:36:44 AM): YE 125 GAIN KI TRADES HAIN MIN
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 8:36:55 AM): 125 k MIN
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 8:37:08 AM): IF WORKED
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 8:37:20 AM): AAYA SAMAJH
Aejaz (7/30/2010 8:37:30 AM): ok
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 8:37:39 AM): TELL ME HOW ??
Aejaz (7/30/2010 8:41:19 AM): ok but limits neck tak block ho jayenge
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 8:41:37 AM): NAHI HONGE
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 8:41:48 AM): THESE ARE COVER ORDERS
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 8:42:05 AM): AND HONGE TO HONGE
Aejaz (7/30/2010 8:42:15 AM): ok
Aejaz (7/30/2010 9:06:38 AM): hi busy in setting up scrips for this month
Aejaz (7/30/2010 9:10:26 AM): HI SIR MKT. MEIN AAG HAI
Aejaz (7/30/2010 9:12:27 AM): u there
Aejaz (7/30/2010 9:14:34 AM): see book 10 points in hdfc
Aejaz (7/30/2010 9:15:40 AM): nifty?
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 9:16:46 AM): book nifty too but first cancel pe 5300 orders
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 9:28:54 AM): rate badadoon option men
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 9:29:20 AM): hdfc
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 9:37:16 AM): y u there at your seat
Aejaz (7/30/2010 9:39:21 AM): YES SIR BOLO
Aejaz (7/30/2010 9:39:30 AM): PUT GALE LAG GAYA HAI AUR NIFTY COVER HO GAYI
Aejaz (7/30/2010 9:40:00 AM): 69.9 PAR
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 9:40:03 AM): put kitne men sell hua
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 9:40:18 AM): nifty kitne men
Aejaz (7/30/2010 9:40:34 AM): 69.9
Aejaz (7/30/2010 9:40:42 AM): NIFTY 5391.5
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 9:41:25 AM): ok
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 9:41:38 AM): 10 lots pe5300
Aejaz (7/30/2010 9:41:40 AM): 18K ANDAR AYA SUBHA SUBHA
Aejaz (7/30/2010 9:41:54 AM): YES 10 LOTS 5300 PE SOLD AT 69.9
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 9:42:10 AM): 35 k risk
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 9:42:49 AM): uska kya karna hai
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 9:42:59 AM): hdfc ka
Aejaz (7/30/2010 9:43:18 AM): HDFC GAYA NA
Aejaz (7/30/2010 9:43:25 AM): 2093.15 MEIN
Aejaz (7/30/2010 9:43:30 AM): U TOLD BOOK
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 9:44:08 AM): but i m seeing ur orders are there in pa2050
Aejaz (7/30/2010 9:44:24 AM): NOW SIR I HAVE TO TRAVEL for two hours..self driving so pl. keep me on sms after 10
Aejaz (7/30/2010 9:44:35 AM): yes pa orders of hdfc are live...what to do
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 9:44:55 AM): i m asking pa 2050 orders have u cancelled??
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 9:45:04 AM): cancel na
Aejaz (7/30/2010 9:45:05 AM): not yet
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 9:45:21 AM): abhi karo nahi to dlf banega
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 9:47:07 AM): sameya pe 5300 se exit karo in nifty nifty ko short karo
Aejaz (7/30/2010 9:47:17 AM): hmm all hdfc orders cancelled for put option
Aejaz (7/30/2010 9:47:36 AM): abhi holding 5300 pe sell
Aejaz (7/30/2010 9:47:44 AM): pl. tell me what is to be done on this....
Aejaz (7/30/2010 9:47:49 AM): as i will be self driving
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 9:47:54 AM): place sell nift 10 lots at 5399
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 9:48:35 AM): buy pe 5300 at 61.1
Aejaz (7/30/2010 9:49:38 AM): all these are pre orders na..
Aejaz (7/30/2010 9:49:45 AM): matlab orders daalkar chale jaoon na
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 9:49:46 AM): means
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 9:50:38 AM): agar jana hai to nifty future short karke jao
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 9:50:50 AM): 5396 hai
Aejaz (7/30/2010 9:51:56 AM): kardiya
Aejaz (7/30/2010 9:51:59 AM): 10 lot short
Aejaz (7/30/2010 9:52:10 AM): now only nifty pe 5300 and fut is open position
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 9:53:23 AM): and pe ka buy oredr hai na
Aejaz (7/30/2010 9:55:34 AM): yes orderd at 61.1
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 9:55:45 AM): ok
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 11:36:36 AM): short hdfcbank at 2108
Aejaz (7/30/2010 11:58:31 AM): see nifty is consolidating ...so if u r financialy weak ... keep sl of 10 points in case of positive break out please note..... always place ur exit order ... if u r in trade as per ur profit target so last time tension won't trouble u ......
Aejaz (7/30/2010 1:02:26 PM): Dhanvarsha Nifty Futures Crucial Levels <<<5304>>><<<5324>>><<<5350>>><<<5371>>><<<5383>>><<<5403>>><<<5423>>>>5449>>>> Flat to negative opening with negative bias will drag indices to more depth.... http://dhanvarshagrp.blogspot.com/
Aejaz (7/30/2010 2:11:56 PM): hope u all are happy wid 15 nifty points
Aejaz (7/30/2010 2:40:26 PM): Singh: ji Singh: sir ioc short kare dhanvarshagrp: down ka signal aane do Singh: ji Last message received on 7/30 at 2:37 PM dhanvarshagrp: maroo shart dhanvarshagrp: ioc koBookmark
Aejaz (7/30/2010 3:02:57 PM): IOCL KYALEVEL BOLE THE SIR
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 3:03:41 PM): 364 men dedo
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 3:05:02 PM): wo hdfc gaya 5 point neeche 2114.10 men buy laga do
Aejaz (7/30/2010 3:11:42 PM): IOC NAI GAYA ABTAK
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 3:13:23 PM): lve it nanahi gaya to 30 k ho gaya
Aejaz (7/30/2010 3:13:47 PM): GAYA AB DONO LOT
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 3:14:21 PM): ok place buy below 3 points
Aejaz (7/30/2010 3:20:09 PM): RCOM ....Dhanvarsha alone was short on it is nearing to our predicted tgt trading well below 180 .... cmp is 178.35 we sarted its short call when it was at 197 .00 can you belive it ??????
Aejaz (7/30/2010 3:20:54 PM): HMM
Aejaz (7/30/2010 3:22:10 PM): SOCHO ABHI NAHIN NIKALTE TO CHANDI HOTI NA?
Aejaz (7/30/2010 3:22:23 PM): 12000 nikaal diye humne
Aejaz (7/30/2010 3:22:44 PM): shall v cover hdfc now
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 3:22:54 PM): wo yaad karo jab aapne bola kal 194 hoga to kya hoga ????
Aejaz (7/30/2010 3:24:02 PM): hmm
Aejaz (7/30/2010 3:25:07 PM): chhodiye ab is topic ko
Aejaz (7/30/2010 3:25:22 PM): cos i was only following u despite all the ups and downs
Aejaz (7/30/2010 3:25:26 PM): u know na?
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 3:30:09 PM): see u reminded .....
Aejaz (7/30/2010 6:27:24 PM): hi sir ge
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 6:27:50 PM): ye ge
Aejaz (7/30/2010 6:28:51 PM): SO TODAY WE MADE A KILLING
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 6:29:00 PM): really ??
Aejaz (7/30/2010 6:30:27 PM): YES WILL CALCULATE AND TELL U
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 6:31:59 PM): i have posted at dv ...ur first report as it is.....
Aejaz (7/30/2010 6:53:45 PM): 6:30:27 PM aejazmogal: YES WILL CALCULATE AND TELL U 6:36:41 PM aejazmogal: 32K 6:36:44 PM aejazmogal: FOR TODAY 6:36:56 PM aejazmogal: THAT TOO WHILE I WAS VERY BUSY AND DRIVING 6:37:38 PM aejazmogal: KAL MAI BOLA 50 K BANAYEGE NA? 6:37:50 PM aejazmogal: AGAR NIFTY THODA HOLD KARTE TAB HO JATA THA SHAYAD
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 6:54:33 PM): you r gr8
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 7:09:23 PM): where r u now ??
Aejaz (7/30/2010 7:40:57 PM): hi sir u there?
Aejaz (7/30/2010 7:41:02 PM): got my msgs?
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 7:41:09 PM): yes and u
Aejaz (7/30/2010 7:41:57 PM): i said u r gr8 not me
Aejaz (7/30/2010 7:42:05 PM): i m in office now
Aejaz (7/30/2010 7:42:11 PM): very hectic schedule today
Aejaz (7/30/2010 7:42:26 PM): jo aap dv par face karte hai wo mujhe bhi face karna padta hai
Aejaz (7/30/2010 7:42:34 PM): fokat mein consultancy
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 7:42:46 PM): hahahahahahahaha
Aejaz (7/30/2010 7:42:49 PM): today one singapore based company wants to build a Hydro power project
Aejaz (7/30/2010 7:43:13 PM): they called me....aur ded shana ban raha tha....aap kaise karoge poochha? kaise banaoge?
Aejaz (7/30/2010 7:43:28 PM): mai bola aap jaise bologe waise banega....
Aejaz (7/30/2010 7:43:45 PM): baaki detail technical discussion after u give us order
Aejaz (7/30/2010 7:44:08 PM): barabar na?
Aejaz (7/30/2010 7:44:27 PM): saale hum se poochhege aur kisi aire gaire ko order dedenge
Aejaz (7/30/2010 7:44:49 PM): u know in LNT only asset is the knowledge and experience of people...nothing else
Aejaz (7/30/2010 7:44:59 PM): u got me?
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 7:45:22 PM): yes
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 7:45:34 PM): barabar
Aejaz (7/30/2010 7:46:16 PM): ek banda hamko letter likha....I want to make a power plant...i have got lot of land....the land is hilly....pl. tell what type of plant you can make there>>>
Aejaz (7/30/2010 7:46:44 PM): humne bola pahile maal kitna hai wo bolo, aur 3 saal ki balance sheet batao...tab aage badhenge...
Aejaz (7/30/2010 7:46:47 PM): barabar na
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 7:46:51 PM): hahaha
Aejaz (7/30/2010 7:47:56 PM): to ab aapko agar aise hi chalega to min. 10 k ka cheque mai deposit karoonga 7 th ko...
Aejaz (7/30/2010 7:48:08 PM): gr8 na?
Aejaz (7/30/2010 7:48:24 PM): 5 members maine diye samajhiye aur kuchh nahin
Aejaz (7/30/2010 7:49:24 PM): thoda bahut loss kaate humne....chalega this month we will cover up
Aejaz (7/30/2010 7:49:26 PM): ok na
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 7:50:00 PM): brother dekhiye plans ham banate hain alla madad kare ...father sab pass kare to sab achchha hoga..
Aejaz (7/30/2010 7:50:25 PM): ok its true
Aejaz (7/30/2010 7:50:59 PM): so u r happy na 1.43 gains approx ...even after all the ups and downs
Aejaz (7/30/2010 7:51:17 PM): dont declare to anyone pls.
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 7:51:38 PM): see what i said u
Aejaz (7/30/2010 7:51:46 PM): maybe we could have crossed 300K....i feel....
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 7:52:07 PM): privacy is must and kept at my level
Aejaz (7/30/2010 7:52:13 PM): this month we will do 300k ok
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 7:52:34 PM): please do not linmit it
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 7:52:42 PM): limit
Aejaz (7/30/2010 7:52:49 PM): haan sir.....mujhe is publicity se door rakhiye...i m different in nature....
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 7:52:56 PM): sky is the limit
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 7:53:20 PM): see i said only aejaz is here
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 7:53:30 PM): but who is he
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 7:53:32 PM): ??
Aejaz (7/30/2010 7:53:40 PM): i dont like to compare ....never.....i am a silent person......aar ya paar wala....nothing in between
Aejaz (7/30/2010 7:53:59 PM): between honge to na aar ka maza loge na paar ka....hahahaha
Aejaz (7/30/2010 7:54:53 PM): subhash abhi bhi chakkar mein hai saala ye hai kaun....
Aejaz (7/30/2010 7:55:05 PM): achha aaj jayraj ko barabar diya maine
Aejaz (7/30/2010 7:55:17 PM): maine bola ab too khareed rcom
Aejaz (7/30/2010 7:55:24 PM): ye meri tip hai
Aejaz (7/30/2010 7:55:27 PM): hahahaha
Aejaz (7/30/2010 7:55:48 PM): ab mai usko tension deta hoon aur msg. send karke turant block kardeta hoon usko
Aejaz (7/30/2010 7:55:50 PM): hahaah
Aejaz (7/30/2010 7:55:58 PM): saala bahut pareshaan kiya tha mujhe
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 7:56:12 PM): hahaha
Aejaz (7/30/2010 7:56:17 PM): chalo chhodiye ab lets target higher and plan accordingly
Aejaz (7/30/2010 7:56:43 PM): ab hdfc aur ioc se kitna khaana hai?
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 7:56:49 PM): i said u earlier too
Aejaz (7/30/2010 7:56:52 PM): 1000 hdfc and 2000 iocl
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 7:57:14 PM): plans only comes seeing the prices moves charts
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 7:57:26 PM): and so many things
Aejaz (7/30/2010 7:57:45 PM): HMM RIGHT
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 7:57:50 PM): if u will say plan this and that
Aejaz (7/30/2010 7:57:58 PM): sir but mai LNT mein pareshaan ho raha hoon
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 7:58:02 PM): nahi hoga kabhi bhi
Aejaz (7/30/2010 7:58:15 PM): aap kya bolte nikal paoonga isse in good rate?
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 7:58:29 PM): aap galat pareshan ho as i said
Aejaz (7/30/2010 7:58:48 PM): sir thoda share karenge tab achha feel hoga mujhe....
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 7:58:58 PM): ok
Aejaz (7/30/2010 7:59:07 PM): thats what i feel
Aejaz (7/30/2010 7:59:15 PM): coz u know technically na
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 7:59:15 PM): aap paisa bada lo
Aejaz (7/30/2010 7:59:30 PM): i work on emotions only
Aejaz (7/30/2010 7:59:38 PM): matlab paisa bada????
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 7:59:37 PM): risk free plan is ready'
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 8:00:07 PM): yes plan 30 30 lots nifty
Aejaz (7/30/2010 8:00:29 PM): 2 mins pls
Aejaz (7/30/2010 8:07:27 PM): haan sir boliye
Aejaz (7/30/2010 8:07:47 PM): but abhi bhi to hum 10 lot fut...10 lot option...20 tak to karte hi hai na
Aejaz (7/30/2010 8:08:09 PM): aur otehr positions too in good quantity
Aejaz (7/30/2010 8:08:20 PM): ok will note your point for future
Aejaz (7/30/2010 8:08:27 PM): u there?
Aejaz (7/30/2010 8:09:40 PM): ??
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 8:10:11 PM): yes listen
Aejaz (7/30/2010 8:10:22 PM): farmaiye sir
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 8:12:02 PM): see i m planning
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 8:12:31 PM): to ragro option call and put premium of entre month
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 8:12:56 PM): currently it is 192
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 8:13:08 PM): subah 200 + tha
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 8:13:21 PM): monday ko 180 ohoga
Aejaz (7/30/2010 8:15:56 PM): kiska?
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 8:16:29 PM): nifty
Aejaz (7/30/2010 8:16:46 PM): kya strike ka?
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 8:17:18 PM): 5400
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 8:17:48 PM): i have plan to sell pe n ce
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 8:18:06 PM): as per the capacity
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 8:18:21 PM): say 5 or 10 lots
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 8:18:29 PM): u decide
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 8:18:49 PM): no risk till i m at moneter
Aejaz (7/30/2010 8:19:08 PM): SELL CE N PE MATLAB?
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 8:19:20 PM): short in both
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 8:19:36 PM): as we did in pe 5300
Aejaz (7/30/2010 8:19:40 PM): SELL CE MEANS BEAR.....SELL PE MATLAB BULL RIGHT?
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 8:19:53 PM): aap matlab chhodo
Aejaz (7/30/2010 8:20:01 PM): ok
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 8:20:04 PM): bas sell karo
Aejaz (7/30/2010 8:20:12 PM): hahahaha
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 8:20:21 PM): aur premium aane do
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 8:21:14 PM): tell me kitna lot ?
Aejaz (7/30/2010 8:22:15 PM): 10/10 lots karenge 10 ce n 10 pe
Aejaz (7/30/2010 8:22:22 PM): 90k andar
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 8:22:47 PM): ok
Aejaz (7/30/2010 8:22:53 PM): but thoda samjhayenge tab achha nahin hoga?
Aejaz (7/30/2010 8:23:09 PM): i can try more also na if possible
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 8:23:17 PM): selem haie mujjhe likhne ka prob
Aejaz (7/30/2010 8:23:41 PM): ek dam simple bhasha mein bolen...like morning....
Aejaz (7/30/2010 8:23:58 PM): 5500 hooa to kya aur 5200 hooa to kya?
Aejaz (7/30/2010 8:24:05 PM): bus it will be clear to me
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 8:24:24 PM): ok
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 8:24:30 PM): in simple
Aejaz (7/30/2010 8:24:43 PM): 3 cases only
Aejaz (7/30/2010 8:24:49 PM): i will get u then
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 8:24:48 PM): both are opposite
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 8:25:05 PM): ek badega to doosra kam hoga
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 8:26:11 PM): so no mtm problem
Aejaz (7/30/2010 8:26:18 PM): hmm
Aejaz (7/30/2010 8:26:24 PM): right
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 8:26:37 PM): decay is our
Aejaz (7/30/2010 8:26:50 PM): ok
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 8:27:32 PM): if we will stay in trade till expiry we will eat max decay
Aejaz (7/30/2010 8:27:46 PM): ok
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 8:27:59 PM): i can read the trend easily
Aejaz (7/30/2010 8:28:07 PM): but aap mujhe basic nahin bata rahe ho
Aejaz (7/30/2010 8:28:14 PM): isliye m confused
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 8:28:29 PM): basic means
Aejaz (7/30/2010 8:28:36 PM): 5500 par kya rahega condition aur 5200 par kya rahega condition aur 5400 par kya...ce aur pe ka both
Aejaz (7/30/2010 8:28:42 PM): dimaag mein nahin ja raha hai
Aejaz (7/30/2010 8:29:13 PM): n u know ek baar mere dimaag mein ghus gaya tab khair nahin ....
Aejaz (7/30/2010 8:29:22 PM): teesre ki
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 8:29:46 PM): listen subah kya samjha tha wo pe ki kahani hai
Aejaz (7/30/2010 8:29:52 PM): see call selling n buying i am aware...but put i dont know anything
Aejaz (7/30/2010 8:30:10 PM): pe clear nahin hai sir abhi tak
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 8:30:20 PM): but pe subah to sikhya tha
Aejaz (7/30/2010 8:30:32 PM): 5400 sell pe at 111 premium means what are we betting?
Aejaz (7/30/2010 8:32:21 PM): c like if i buy call of 5400 at 100 rs...means i bet that mkt will go to 5400
Aejaz (7/30/2010 8:32:58 PM): n if i sell the same that means i m selling at 5500
Aejaz (7/30/2010 8:33:05 PM): hope i am right for the call option?
Aejaz (7/30/2010 8:33:32 PM): c like if i buy call of 5400 at 100 rs...means i bet that mkt will go to 5500
Aejaz (7/30/2010 8:33:42 PM): sorry for the typing error
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 8:33:57 PM): i m confused by dher sari sitations
Aejaz (7/30/2010 8:34:57 PM): ok pl. tell me what happens to pe and ce both if we sell both 5400 strike at 100 rs premium if mkt moves to 5500 or 5300
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 8:36:29 PM): see on 26 aug ce will be 100 if mkt will be at 5500 and pe will be 0.05 paisa
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 8:36:47 PM): and reverse at 5300
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 8:37:05 PM): so 100 is solid gain
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 8:37:36 PM): is it clear now
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 8:38:42 PM): have u got the answer
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 8:39:14 PM): where
Aejaz (7/30/2010 8:40:46 PM): wait i am studying
Aejaz (7/30/2010 8:41:55 PM): ok got it ab monday ko pahila kaam yahi hoga theek hai?
Aejaz (7/30/2010 8:42:15 PM): ab last question poochho kya?
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 8:42:15 PM): but mujhe samjhao
Aejaz (7/30/2010 8:42:24 PM): kya
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 8:42:40 PM): aapko kya samajh aaya
Aejaz (7/30/2010 8:42:53 PM): jo samajhna tha wo aagaya
Aejaz (7/30/2010 8:43:02 PM): ab 5400 hi hoga tab kya hoga?
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 8:43:04 PM): main bhool gaya
Aejaz (7/30/2010 8:44:51 PM): ??
Aejaz (7/30/2010 8:44:57 PM): mkt 5400 raha tab
Aejaz (7/30/2010 8:45:02 PM): dono andar ayega na?
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 8:45:14 PM): na our plan ku banaya??
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 8:45:27 PM): kya gain hoga
Aejaz (7/30/2010 8:45:38 PM): time decay
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 8:45:52 PM): ku hoga aur ham ku ye trade karenge
Aejaz (7/30/2010 8:46:16 PM): option decays with time
Aejaz (7/30/2010 8:46:29 PM): n we will sell both so no worry
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 8:46:30 PM): wo kitna hoga
Aejaz (7/30/2010 8:46:50 PM): that i dont know
Aejaz (7/30/2010 8:47:04 PM): may be rapid after 20th or so
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 8:47:12 PM): and can we plan like this
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 8:47:24 PM): for other strikes too
Aejaz (7/30/2010 8:47:38 PM): bolo aap
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 8:47:47 PM): i m asking u ji
Aejaz (7/30/2010 8:48:07 PM): bolo aap matlab hukum
Aejaz (7/30/2010 8:48:10 PM): y not?
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 8:48:20 PM): 5200 per nifty hua to pe 5400 ka kya hoga
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 8:48:47 PM): and 5000 per hua tooooooooooooooo
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 8:49:14 PM): and 4800 per /??/??
Aejaz (7/30/2010 8:49:17 PM): 200 and 400 respectively
Aejaz (7/30/2010 8:49:25 PM): 600
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 8:49:40 PM): then what we will do
Aejaz (7/30/2010 8:50:29 PM): sell call and put both
Aejaz (7/30/2010 8:50:50 PM): but call we will gain limited but put we will loose unlimited
Aejaz (7/30/2010 8:51:10 PM): m i right
Aejaz (7/30/2010 8:51:20 PM): call will become zero
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 8:51:29 PM): yes so risk is there
Aejaz (7/30/2010 8:52:05 PM): so we can buy call and sell put
Aejaz (7/30/2010 8:52:21 PM): or reverse
Aejaz (7/30/2010 8:52:36 PM): sir i will go home now n catch u fm there ok
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 8:53:07 PM): yes
Aejaz (7/30/2010 8:53:11 PM): meanwhile pl. study LNT charts if u have time
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 8:53:27 PM): see lnt is at my breath
Aejaz (7/30/2010 8:53:47 PM): ?
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 8:54:55 PM): means we missed by 25 i think its high was 1844.95
Aejaz (7/30/2010 8:55:15 PM): hmm
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 8:55:16 PM): and we placed order at 1869
Aejaz (7/30/2010 8:55:25 PM): yes sir
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 8:55:39 PM): so bad luck kharab na
Aejaz (7/30/2010 8:55:47 PM): hmm
Aejaz (7/30/2010 8:56:14 PM): c u fm home sir...
Aejaz (7/30/2010 8:56:25 PM): meanwhile pl. see the charts if u get time
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 8:56:49 PM): ok will show u thru tv
Aejaz (7/30/2010 8:57:04 PM): ok
Aejaz (7/30/2010 8:57:09 PM): cua sometime
dhanvarshagrp (7/30/2010 8:57:18 PM): k